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Yichi · Nov 21, 2005, 04:47 PM // 16:47

well the dancing can be debated......

and im a guy btw

the chars named after a famous Japaneese RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOhosue madame, hench the name

fiery · Nov 21, 2005, 04:58 PM // 16:58

who said rangers cant own.. they the best Profession in the whole game. IMO.. trapper..condition spammer...and YES rangers CAN tank...the skill whirling defence... if i can withstand a 248 attack and dodge it many times with one skills... i think im a tank enough.

stonedvodka · Nov 21, 2005, 06:46 PM // 18:46

Every class can shine... it's just in different ways.
Since the OP said he was new to the GW, I think it's easier to see why he likes warrior at this point of the game and find some other classes to be "not as effective" right away. But as he progresses through the game, I hope that the OP realizes succeeding or failing a mission becomes more or less an issue of "teamwork", in which case it's crucial you bring a balanced party.
So my point is... give it some time Rugal.. I promise you that a competent ranger can bring a lot to the table so don't count us out just yet

eom · Nov 21, 2005, 08:23 PM // 20:23

all I know is that I play a warrior pve and it's the charr rangers that kick my ass.

Shimus DarkRaven · Nov 21, 2005, 08:28 PM // 20:28

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Originally Posted by eom

all I know is that I play a warrior pve and it's the charr rangers that kick my ass.

Don't worry, they will early in the game. Unless you have droks by that stage, their penatration arrows will tend to take you down. Come back to ascalon at 20, like I did, with droks, like I did, and just go back and take your revenge, heck, even do the nolani mission and pull the lever and kill them in mass numbers! Always fun.

--The Shim

Rico Carridan · Nov 21, 2005, 08:41 PM // 20:41

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Originally Posted by rugal nuker

I find ranger abit useless as they only can shoot arrows and deal abit dmg at long range and cant take too much dmg like a tank.so why not choose a tank instead of rangers? tanks and be a meat shield and deal more dmg than rangers.no offence to rangers but i just do not know the benefit of being a ranger,can anyone please tell me?

To be honest with you, I feel the same way about warriors. They don't do much damage to be comparable to other classes (rangers, elementalists, necros, all have much better spike and dps capabilities than warriors). Warrior interrupts are almost completely useless, and with the exception of *very* healing intensive W/Mo builds, they need outside intervention for healing, not to mention that conditions are really crippling to them. There are *tons* of anti-warrior hexes that can completely devastate them for long periods of time. Any they're the only class that doesn't have a ranged weapon, so they often end up aggroing more monsters than they intend to. In PvE pretty much, the only thing warriors are good for is standing there in a stance and taking damage so that the other classes can kill the monsters.

And yes, for the record, I have played a warrior through to the end of the game and PvP with him occasionally.

Rico

D E A D S Y · Nov 21, 2005, 10:28 PM // 22:28

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Originally Posted by rugal nuker

I find ranger abit useless as they only can shoot arrows and deal abit dmg at long range and cant take too much dmg like a tank.so why not choose a tank instead of rangers? tanks and be a meat shield and deal more dmg than rangers.no offence to rangers but i just do not know the benefit of being a ranger,can anyone please tell me?

LMAO. you silly noob, rangers own so much. they beat the crap out of professions with weak armor. just equip certain spike ranger skills, and you will do heavy damage trust me.

Kindle arrow > dual shot , called shot , quick shot = hard damage

their traps own too.

TadaceAce · Nov 21, 2005, 10:32 PM // 22:32

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Originally Posted by Rico Carridan

To be honest with you, I feel the same way about warriors. They don't do much damage to be comparable to other classes (rangers, elementalists, necros, all have much better spike and dps capabilities than warriors). Warrior interrupts are almost completely useless, and with the exception of *very* healing intensive W/Mo builds, they need outside intervention for healing, not to mention that conditions are really crippling to them. There are *tons* of anti-warrior hexes that can completely devastate them for long periods of time. Any they're the only class that doesn't have a ranged weapon, so they often end up aggroing more monsters than they intend to. In PvE pretty much, the only thing warriors are good for is standing there in a stance and taking damage so that the other classes can kill the monsters.

And yes, for the record, I have played a warrior through to the end of the game and PvP with him occasionally.

Rico

I'll bet this guy was a W/Mo his whole warrior career.... warriors have the capability to do far and away more damage than any class, its just conditional, easily negated via running, blind, cripple, prot, etc...

imaginary friend · Nov 21, 2005, 10:41 PM // 22:41

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Originally Posted by Epinephrine

And vice versa. A warrior with wild blow can cream a stance ranger, and if they can deal with blindness (plague touch) your other defense is lost. DOn't try to compare them that way, it hurts any argument to say, "X can take Y solo".

who needs stances, play my panzy way, PIN DOWN AND POISON FTW!!!

glenn_rolfe · Nov 21, 2005, 10:48 PM // 22:48

if you learn to become a very good interrupt ranger, where you can interrupt multiple targets, you will become among the most skillful playing the game, and the most valuable

D E A D S Y · Nov 21, 2005, 10:53 PM // 22:53

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Originally Posted by imaginary friend

who needs stances, play my panzy way, PIN DOWN AND POISON FTW!!!

and throw dirty, and pin again, and whirling defense and run with storm chaser!

Death Dafire · Nov 21, 2005, 11:15 PM // 23:15

Ranger Spike FTW.

forelli3600 · Nov 22, 2005, 08:10 AM // 08:10

go with 5 rangers to Underworld and you will own them little beasts in there.
go with 5 warriors and you're death in a sec.

JR · Nov 22, 2005, 08:35 AM // 08:35

As much as I agree that rangers are as good as any other class, the whole "rangers can pull because they have the longest range weapon" argument is completely flawed. My monk can take a longbow and pull just as well if I wanted to.

dusta · Nov 23, 2005, 02:26 AM // 02:26

rangers are also very versatile i find that in pvp play thay can use not only a bow they can go r/w and go sword, axe and hammer very effectivley...not only that they can go r/n and runn a touch ranger there are a bunch of things u can do with a ranger..if u still would like to use a bow than run ranger spike for dmg or a r/e with conjure flame+favourable winds+read the wind+fiery bow+dual shot or punishing shot= alot of dmg

Former Ruling · Nov 23, 2005, 02:36 AM // 02:36

Has the ownageness of Spirits been explained too?

Natures Renewel still screws with people. QZ and Frozen Soil also can turn battles..

Nov 21, 2005, 04:47 PM // 16:47	#21
Yichi Furnace Stoker Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Guild Hall, Vent, Guesting, PvE, or the occasional HA match... Guild: Dark Alley [dR]	well the dancing can be debated...... and im a guy btw the chars named after a famous Japaneese RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOhosue madame, hench the name

Nov 21, 2005, 04:58 PM // 16:58	#22
fiery Banned Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: maryland Guild: InYurFace Gaming [IYF] Profession: R/	who said rangers cant own.. they the best Profession in the whole game. IMO.. trapper..condition spammer...and YES rangers CAN tank...the skill whirling defence... if i can withstand a 248 attack and dodge it many times with one skills... i think im a tank enough.

Nov 21, 2005, 06:46 PM // 18:46	#23
stonedvodka Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Nov 2005 Profession: W/	Every class can shine... it's just in different ways. Since the OP said he was new to the GW, I think it's easier to see why he likes warrior at this point of the game and find some other classes to be "not as effective" right away. But as he progresses through the game, I hope that the OP realizes succeeding or failing a mission becomes more or less an issue of "teamwork", in which case it's crucial you bring a balanced party. So my point is... give it some time Rugal.. I promise you that a competent ranger can bring a lot to the table so don't count us out just yet

Nov 21, 2005, 08:23 PM // 20:23	#24
eom Krytan Explorer Join Date: Nov 2005 Profession: W/N	all I know is that I play a warrior pve and it's the charr rangers that kick my ass.

Nov 21, 2005, 10:48 PM // 22:48	#30
glenn_rolfe Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Aug 2005	if you learn to become a very good interrupt ranger, where you can interrupt multiple targets, you will become among the most skillful playing the game, and the most valuable

Nov 21, 2005, 11:15 PM // 23:15	#32
Death Dafire Desert Nomad Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Hall of Heroes >_< Guild: Vietnam Strikes Back [viet] Profession: Mo/E	Ranger Spike FTW.

Nov 22, 2005, 08:10 AM // 08:10	#33
forelli3600 Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Nov 2005 Profession: Me/	go with 5 rangers to Underworld and you will own them little beasts in there. go with 5 warriors and you're death in a sec.

Nov 22, 2005, 08:35 AM // 08:35	#34
JR Re:tired Join Date: Nov 2005 Profession: W/	As much as I agree that rangers are as good as any other class, the whole "rangers can pull because they have the longest range weapon" argument is completely flawed. My monk can take a longbow and pull just as well if I wanted to.

Nov 23, 2005, 02:26 AM // 02:26	#35
dusta Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Aug 2005 Guild: hera lyn Profession: R/Me	rangers are also very versatile i find that in pvp play thay can use not only a bow they can go r/w and go sword, axe and hammer very effectivley...not only that they can go r/n and runn a touch ranger there are a bunch of things u can do with a ranger..if u still would like to use a bow than run ranger spike for dmg or a r/e with conjure flame+favourable winds+read the wind+fiery bow+dual shot or punishing shot= alot of dmg

Nov 23, 2005, 02:36 AM // 02:36	#36
Former Ruling Grotto Attendant Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Cedartown, Georgia Profession: R/	Has the ownageness of Spirits been explained too? Natures Renewel still screws with people. QZ and Frozen Soil also can turn battles..